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Stidar in artitgel?[modifitgar il code]

Ti vuls laschar stidar in artitgel? Al registrescha qua:

Wikipedia:Candidats per stidar

DialektWiki[modifitgar il code]

Hallo Dialektvrüngde,

ich würde mich freuen, wenn Ihr hier mal vorbeischauen würdet:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DialectWiki/ (engl.) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DialectWiki/De (deutsch)

Zur weiteren Erklärung:

Es soll ein Dialektwörterbuch entstehen, das aber auch idomatische Redewendungen oder ganze Sätze enthalten kann. Ich habe mit Paul Hemetsberger Kontakt aufgenommen, der ein Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch erstellt hat, welches auch ein Audiomodul zur Aufnahme enthält: http://www.dict.cc/

Grundsätzlich kőnnten alle Dialekte, Regionalsprachen usw. darin enthalten sein. Es hängt eigentlich nur von der Mitwirkung ab. Ich habe dahingehend ca. 20 europäische und 4 amerikanische Sprachinstitute angeschrieben.

Um zu starten waere der deutsche Sprachraum am Geeignetesten, da es hier schon mehrere DialektWikipedien gibt: Alemannisch, Bairisch, Sorbisch, Friesisch, Ripuarisch, Plattdeutsch, Limburgisch, Letzeburgisch usw.

Meine Hauptidee ist es, eine Karte , wie z.B. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiMiniAtlas/de einzubinden. Diese Karte könnte man mit Dialektkarten unterlegen (wie bei GoogleMaps), sodaß jeder, der beiträgt, seinen Heimat-/Herkunftsort eingibt und der Eintrag an die Geodaten gekoppelt in die Datenbank weggeschrieben wird.

Diese Dialektkarte kőnnte schon eingeteilt sein in bestimmte Areale, damit die Einträge auch zusammenfaßbar sind. Im Rheinland z. B. Köln und Umland als ein Feld, daneben Düsseldorf, Aachen, Bonn, Krefeld, Ruhrgebiet, Siegkreis, usw.

Es läge dann bei den lokalen Mithelfern, also Euch, oder den Sprachinstituten, um eine Einteilung vorzuschlagen oder eine Karte zu entwickeln.

Der Direktor des schottischen Sprachinstitutes hat mich z.B. darauf hingewiesen, dass das Schottische fünf Hauptdialekte aufweist.

Ich bin neu in der Wikipedia und versuche, mir so viel wie möglich anzueignen, um einen Prototyp zu Wege zu bringen, komme da aber ohne Unterstützung nicht weiter.

Falls Ihr Ideen habt oder noch besser mitmacht, würde ich mich freuen.

Tipps zum Einbinden einer Karte, eines Audiomoduls und vor allem der Koppelung an die Datenbank wären natürlich das Sahnehäubchen.

==Bovelett 16:41, 16 schaner 2009 (CET)

Proposta da premissas minimalas[modifitgar il code]

In artitgel en la Vichipedia rumantscha duai ademplir tschertas premissas minimalas. Per che nus stuain betg mintga giada votar davart in singul artitgel, fatsch jau la proposta da notar qua intginas pretensiuns fundamentalas per artitgels. Discutai p. pl. qua. --Gion-andri 22:48, 1 favrer 2009 (CET)

Radunanza generala da Wikimedia CH[modifitgar il code]

Sonda ils 28 da mars 2009 ha lieu a Berna la radunanza generala da Wikimedia CH. Fiss bel d'entupar in u l'auter vichipedian rumantsch là. Detagls datti qua Salids--Gion 16:41, 15 favrer 2009 (CET)

Aussprache[modifitgar il code]

Hallo Ihr. Ich beschäftige mich mit rätischem Latein und frühem Romanisch. Ich habe gesehen, dass es in den rätischen Urkunden bei manchen Namen 'au' statt 'al' hat. Ich kenne von Rätoromanisch her 'aul' statt 'al'. Wird das dann mit sammt 'l' gesprochen oder ist das nur Zierde, dass man sieht, wie es sich entwickelt hat?

Noch was, das ist nicht ganz so wichtig: Wieso gibt es auf Romanisch mehr 'u' wie auf Latein? Ich weiß, dass sich viele 'u' aus langen 'o' entwickelt haben, aber es gibt auch kurze 'o' die 'u' geworden sind, wie bei 'cun'. Aber alle 'o' sind nicht 'u' geworden, sonst wären keine 'o' mehr übrig. Gibt es dazu eine Regel? Ich habe mir viele Besonderheiten vom rätischen Latein selbst erschlossen und auch zusammengesucht. Das macht Spaß. Liebe Grüße - Capsicaciolum 20:43, 21 mars 2009 (CET)

Wie du sicher weißt, gibt es im Romanischen verschiedene Dialekte, die durchaus unterschiedliche Lautverschiebungen seit dem Latein haben; selbst bei den standardisierten Schriftsprachen gibt es noch fünf. Wenn man noch weniger möchte, kann man vielleicht Osten (Puter + Vallader; typisch z.B. cha- < *CA-) und Westen (Surmiran + Sutsilvan + Sursilvan; typisch z.B. ca- < *CA-) unterscheiden. Aber Lautentwicklungen für "Romanisch" als Gesamtsprachgruppe lassen sich etwas schwieriger aufstellen. (Ist im Deutschen ja auch nicht anders; jeder Dialekt hat da seine eigenen Besonderheiten; im Süden z.B. sind früheres "ei" und langes "i" nicht zusammengefallen, sodass sich dort "zwei" und "drei" nicht reimen.) Man müsste also wissen, woher nun deine Urkunden kommen...
Das mit den Lautentwicklungen aus dem Latin interessiert mich allerdings auch -- vielleicht kannst du mir eine E-Mail schicken, Capsicaciolum, um mir deine Erkenntnisse zum rätischen Latein mitzuteilen? -- pne 22:26, 21 mars 2009 (CET)

commons:Template:User SUL[modifitgar il code]

Hi, could someone import/translate this template in rm ? Thank you very much, regards, Otourly 14:21, 17 matg 2009 (CEST)

Administratur temporar[modifitgar il code]

Ciao ensemen, jau hai dumandà il status sco admin per duas emnas sin il vichi da coordinaziun (wikimedia) per stidar intginas paginas dals candidats per stidar e da la categoria da la paginas memia curtas. La dumonda vegn approvada sche nagin protesta. --Andreas 01:04, 12 zercladur 2009 (CEST)

Buna idea, tenor mes avis. Jau na protestesch betg. -- pne 13:49, 12 zercladur 2009 (CEST)
Granted sysop rights for 2 weeks. --Dungodung 11:10, 16 zercladur 2009 (CEST)
Grazia pne per la confidenza! ;-) --Andreas 12:52, 20 zercladur 2009 (CEST)

Impurtant: dretgs da bot per SiemiBot[modifitgar il code]

Spätestens dapi la creaziun da massa dad artitgels dal Felix conuschen tuts mes bot da clean-up. Sco temp admin hai jau cumenzà a spustar tutas las categorias cun nums fauss ch'ha creà Felix ed ad organisar ina structura da categorias logica. Cun quai è la glista da las ultimas midadas plaina cun edits da mes bot. Per midar e evitar quai, hai jau dumandà ils dretgs da bot per SiemiBot sin Meta-Vichi, aber els vulan vesair in consens da la communitad. --Andreas 12:52, 20 zercladur 2009 (CEST)

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  • Gea. SiemiBot è in bot, ed i fiss util da na vesair betg sias midadas sur la pagina la las ultimas midadas. -- pne 16:07, 22 zercladur 2009 (CEST)

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english wikipedia to delete article about romansch wikipedia[modifitgar il code]

en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romansh Wikipedia.
Please add more info and more references to the article en:Romansh Wikipedia. Altenmann 18:19, 22 zercladur 2009 (CEST)

Well, we are a small project with not much to tell about. We have one administrator, no bureaucrat and less than ten steady (and at times up to five regular) contributors. The project is growing slowly but steadily. There is already a bunch of high-quality articles, some of which are linked on the main page. The project allows articles written in the unified orthograpy and dachsprache Rumantsch Grischun (RG) as well as in the five regional standards, i.e. Sutsilvan, Sursilvan, Surmiran, Vallader and Puter. So far, this Vichipedia has seen articles written in RG, Sursilvan and Puter (there might be single pages in one of the other varieties, but I haven't discovered any). That's all information I can give you; you may -of course- quote this for the article in question. Cheers, Andreas 22:56, 22 zercladur 2009 (CEST)
P.S.: I'm not sure whether it is okay to mention the initiators of the project by full name, while at the same time I agree that the funding has to be mentioned.
I saw at least one article started in (I think) Surmiran, but the author converted it into Rumantsch Grischun fairly soon. -- pne 15:25, 23 zercladur 2009 (CEST)

The LocalisationUpdate extension has gone live[modifitgar il code]

The LocalisationUpdate extension is now enabled for all Wikimedia projects. From now on new localisations that become available in SVN will become available to your project within 24 hours. Your localisations get into SVN from translatewiki.net typically within a day and at worst in two days. This is a huge improvement from the old practice where the localisations became available with new software. This could take weeks, even months.

The localisations done by our community at translatewiki.net are committed to SVN typically every day. When the system messages in English are the same as the local messages, they will now be inserted in a file and are available for use in all our projects in a timely manner

What this means for you[modifitgar il code]

Local messages have an impact on the performance of our system. It is best when messages are as much as possible part of the system messages. In order to remove unnecessary duplication, all the messages that have a local localisation and are exactly the same as the system message will be removed. What we ask you to do is to compare and proof read the messages in translatewiki.net and the local messages. You can then either remove local messages when the translatewiki.net message is to be preferred or, you can update the message at translatewiki.net.

Messages that are specific to your project will have to stay as they are. You do want to check if the format and the variables of the message are still the same.

Why localise at translatewiki.net[modifitgar il code]

When you localise at translatewiki.net, your messages will be used in all Wikimedia projects and eventually in all MediaWiki based projects. This is how we provide the standard support for your language. When messages change, at translatewiki.net you will be prompted to revisit your translations. Localising is more efficient because we have innovated the process to make you more efficient; there is text explaining about messages and we have applied AJAX technology to reduce the number of clicks you have to make.

Translatewiki.net update[modifitgar il code]

  • Currently 33.56% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.18% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 16:42, 30 Settember 2009 (CEST)
  • Currently 33.17% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.18% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 15:55, 1 november 2009 (CET)
  • Currently 50.15% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.30% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 14:43, 8 december 2009 (CET)
  • Currently 49.87% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.26% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 16:27, 18 schaner 2010 (CET)

How can we improve the usability for your language[modifitgar il code]

We expect that with the implementation of LocalisationUpdate the usability of MediaWiki for your language will improve. We are now ready to look at other aspects of usability for your language as well. There are two questions we would like you to answer: Are there issues with the new functionality of the Usability Initiative Does MediaWiki support your language properly

The best way to answer the first question is to visit the translatewiki.net. Change the language to your language, select the “vector” skin and add the advanced tool bar in in the preferences and check out the new functionality. And make some changes in your user page. When there is a need to improve on the localisation, please make the necessary changess . It should update your localisation straight away. We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability_issues.

When there are problems with the support of MediaWiki for your language, we really want to know about this. It is best to report each issue separately. In this way there will be no large mass of issues to resolve but we can address each issue on its own. Consider issues with the display of characters, the presentation of your script, the position of the side bar, the combination of text with other languages, scripts. It is best to try this in an environment like the prototype wiki as it provides you with a clean, basic and up to date environment. The prototype wiki is available for five languages but you can select any of them, change the preferences to your language and test out MediaWiki for your language.

We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_issues. The issues you raise will all be assessed. It is important to keep each issue separate, because this will make it easier to understand the issues and find solutions.

PS This text has been approved by Naoko, Brion and Siebrand. Thanks, GerardM 16:42, 30 Settember 2009 (CEST)

Tschertgà: Translaziun da BFS-Nummer[modifitgar il code]

Stgavo ensemen. Jau sun a la tschertga d'ina translaziun uffiziala u semi-uffiziala (medias) per la noziun BFS-Nummer u Gemeindenummer. Tenor il PG vegn il BFS translatà sco UFS ma translaziuns sco "numer UFS", "numer da l'UFS" e numerusas autras na furneschan nagins resultats en google. La suletta translaziun rumantscha ch'jau ha pudì chattar è "Numer da code da l'UFS" en il document "La situaziun actuala dal rumantsch", mess ensemen da l'UFS sez. Questa translaziun è aber fitg lunga, surtut memia lunga per l'infobox. --Andreas 20:55, 13 avril 2010 (CEST)

Bot flag for EmausBot[modifitgar il code]

Hello. I would like to get a bot flag for my bot.

Thanks! --Emaus 03:12, 26 zercladur 2010 (CEST)

Pro[modifitgar il code]

  • Sch'el vul, jau n'hai nagin'objecziun. -- 78.54.118.38 16:34, 27 zercladur 2010 (CEST)
  • Works fine! Jeu sun d'accord. --Andreas 01:19, 4 fanadur 2010 (CEST)

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Fundraising 2010: Beat Jimmy Challenge[modifitgar il code]

The Fundraising Committee is issuing all interested community members a challenge: we want you to beat Jimmy. The appeal from Jimmy Wales and the corresponding banner have been tested head-to-head with other successful banners, and the results are clear: it's our best performing message... by a lot. This year we have a lofty fundraising goal; we need all of our banners to bring in donations like the Jimmy Appeal, but no one wants to keep the Jimmy banner up for two months. We want to run donor quotes, and other wonderful ideas, but we have to have banners that work as well as or better than the Jimmy appeal.

We've just released the highlights from a donor focus group, and the results of our donor survey. With one month to the launch of the fundraiser, the messages we test must be driven by data from our tests and surveys - we can no longer rely on instinct alone.

We've redesigned our fundraising meta pages with the Jimmy challenge; check out the survey results and propose/discuss banners that reflect these findings. Add the banners you think will 'beat Jimmy' here to be tested Tuesday October 12 against Jimmy. -Dgultekin 23:50, 6 october 2010 (CEST)

Fundraising 2010[modifitgar il code]

Hello Wikimedians, my name is Kelly and I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation during the 2010 Fundraiser. My job is to be the liaison between the Rumantsch community and the Foundation. This year's fundraiser is intended to be a collaborative and global effort, we recognize that banner messages that perform well in the United States don't necessarily translate well, or appeal to international audiences.

I'm contacting you as I am currently looking for translators who are willing to contribute to this project, helping to translate and localize messages into Rumantsch and suggesting messages that would appeal to Rumantsch readers on the Fundraising Meta Page. We've started the setup on meta for both banner submission, statistical analysis, and grouping volunteers together.
Use the talk pages on meta, talk to your local communities, talk to others, talk to us, and add your feedback to the proposed messages as well! I look forward to working with you during this year's fundraiser.

Please translate this message into Rumantsch if you can and post it below. Thanks!Klyman 20:07, 14 october 2010 (CEST)

Zugriffe auf die Startseite[modifitgar il code]

Am 9. März 2011 gab es bei vielen kleineren Wikipedien doppelt so hohe Zugriffszahlen auf die Startseite wie üblich:

In den den großen Wikipedien ist dieses Phänomen nicht aufgetreten:

--Holder 16:53, 6 avril 2011 (CEST)

Multilingual Challenge[modifitgar il code]

Please help: replace this red text with a translation of the English message below. Thank you!
Announcing the Derby Multilingual Challenge

This is the first multilingual Wikipedia collaboration. All Wikipedians can take part, in any Wikipedia language. The challenge runs from 1 May until 3 September 2011.
Sign up now!
" Wikipedia is particularly pleased to see that Derby Museums are encouraging the creation of articles in languages other than English." (Jimmy Wales, 14 January 2011)

Andrew Dalby 15:41, 2 matg 2011 (CEST)

Call for image filter referendum[modifitgar il code]

The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.

Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.

Sorry for delivering you a message in English. Please help translate the pages on the referendum on Meta and join the translators mailing list.

For the coordinating committee,
Philippe (WMF)
Cbrown1023
Risker
Mardetanha
PeterSymonds
Robert Harris


HiW-Bot[modifitgar il code]

  • Operator : Hedwig in Washington
  • Automatic or Manually Assisted : automatic
  • Programming Language(s) : Python (pywikipedia), daily update
  • Function Summary : Interwiki, Internationalization by removing chaos in Babel so it can be used properly and easy. Double redirects will be added shortly
  • Already has a bot flag (Y/N) : Yes: DE, EN, AR, NL, NN, KA, DA, BE-X-OLD, BAT-SMG, ARZ and LB, others pending. see here
  • Function Details : just using the standard interwiki.py; parameters: -auto -all - log -catr

I humbly request bot status on this wiki in order to update Interwiki, and improve Internationalization by removing chaos in Babel so it can be used properly and easy by everyone.

Thank you for consideration! --Hedwig in Washington 04:33, 4 Settember 2011 (CEST)

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  • pne 15:08, 4 Settember 2011 (CEST)

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Actualisaziun da las cundiziun d'utilisaziun[modifitgar il code]

I apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is discussing changes to its Terms of Use. The discussion can be found at Talk:Terms of use. Everyone is invited to join in. Because the new version of Terms of use is not in final form, we are not able to present official translations of it. Volunteers are welcome to translate it, as German volunteers have done at m:Terms of use/de, but we ask that you note at the top that the translation is unofficial and may become outdated as the English version is changed. The translation request can be found at m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2 -- Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison 03:13, 27 october 2011 (CEST)

Translaziun

La Fundaziun Wikimedia (Wikimedia Foundation) discuta actualmain ina midada da las cundiziuns d'utilisaziun (Nutzungsbedingungen). La discussiun chattais sut Talk:Terms of use. Vus essas envidads da contribuir. Perquai che la versiun nova da las cundiziuns d'utilisaziun n'è anc betg avant maun en sia furma finala, na pudainsa betg porscher translaziuns uffizialas. VoluntariAs èn evidadAs da far translaziuns, sco ch'ils voluntariAs da lingua tudestga al han fatg sut m:Terms of use/de. Per plaschair inditgai avant la translaziun ch'ella n'è betg uffiziala e ch'ella n'è betg pli actuala cura che la versiun englaisa vegn modifitgada. La dumonda da translaziun chattais sut m:Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use 2. Messadi original da Maggie Dennis, Community Liaison, translaziun dad Andreas 10:30, 27 october 2011 (CEST)

Open Call for 2012 Wikimedia Fellowship Applicants[modifitgar il code]

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I apologize that you are receiving this message in English. Please help translate it.

  • Do you want to help attract new contributors to Wikimedia projects?
  • Do you want to improve retention of our existing editors?
  • Do you want to strengthen our community by diversifying its base and increasing the overall number of excellent participants around the world?

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking Community Fellows and project ideas for the Community Fellowship Program. A Fellowship is a temporary position at the Wikimedia Foundation in order to work on a specific project or set of projects. Submissions for 2012 are encouraged to focus on the theme of improving editor retention and increasing participation in Wikimedia projects. If interested, please submit a project idea or apply to be a fellow by January 15, 2012. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships for more information.

Thanks!

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Community Fellowships, Wikimedia Foundation 04:02, 22 december 2011 (CET)

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