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Announcing Wikipedia 1.19 beta

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the WMF-hosted wikis. As we finish wrapping up our code review, you can test the new version right now on beta.wmflabs.org. For more information, please read the release notes or the start of the final announcement.

The following are the areas that you will probably be most interested in:

Faster loading of javascript files makes dependency tracking more important.
New common*.css files usable by skins instead of having to copy piles of generic styles from MonoBook or Vector's css.
The default user signature now contains a talk link in addition to the user link.
Searching blocked usernames in block log is now clearer.
Better timezone recognition in user preferences.
Improved diff readability for colorblind people.
The interwiki links table can now be accessed also when the interwiki cache is used (used in the API and the Interwiki extension).
More gender support (for instance in logs and user lists).
Language converter improved, e.g. it now works depending on the page content language.
Time and number-formatting magic words also now depend on the page content language.
Bidirectional support further improved after 1.18.

Report any problems on the labs beta wiki and we'll work to address them before they software is released to the production wikis.

Note that this cluster does have SUL but it is not integrated with SUL in production, so you'll need to create another account. You should avoid using the same password as you use here. — Global message delivery 17:30, 15 schaner 2012 (CET)

Language support group for Romansh

The Wikimedia Foundation has brought together a new team of developers who are dedicated to language support. This team is to support all the languages and consequently it is not realistic to expect that the team members can provide proper support for your language. It is for this reason that we are looking for volunteers who will make up a language support team.

This language support team will be asked to provide us with information about their language. Such information may need to be provided either to us or on a website that we will indicate to you. Another activity will be to test software that will likely have an effect on the running of the MediaWiki software. We are looking for people who clearly identify their ability. Formal knowledge is definitely appreciated.

As much of the activity will be concentrated on translatewiki.net, it will be a plus when team members know how to localise at translatewiki.net.
Thanks, Gmeijssen 21:17, 1 favrer 2012 (CET)

MediaWiki 1.19

(Apologies if this message isn't in your language.) The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to upgrade MediaWiki (the software powering this wiki) to its latest version this month. You can help to test it before it is enabled, to avoid disruption and breakage. More information is available in the full announcement. Thank you for your understanding.

Guillaume Paumier, via the Global message delivery system (wrong page? You can fix it.). 16:16, 12 favrer 2012 (CET)

Ina dumonda

Ciao a tuts! Mì sunt un utilisader e aministradur da la Wikipedia lumbarda (dunca un vost vesin da cà): ma spias da savè brica el Rumancc, però prövi a scriv in d'una maniera ca pudii cumprend anca vui. In questi dì sun dree a fà vegnì i paginn sura i dialet dal Rumancc (Sutsilvan, Sursilvan etc.) pü grand e bei, e par fàl hoo cercaa e cataa föra anca di vegg test dal XIX secul. Cura ma sun miss a trascriv ün da 'sti test, però el m'è vegnüü el dübi ca l'urtugrafia duperada l'era brica quela pü cureta, ma ca la füdess un'urtugrafia italianizzanta. Par quest hoo pensaa ca pudevi dumandàv un agiüt. Se pudarissuv mussàm cume 'l sa scriv curetament, ve 'n saria propi recunussent.
El test in quistiun a l'è quest chì (sota pudii catà anca l'adress da Internet dal qual l'hoo tiraa föra): vöri brica una növa tradüziun, ma sulament la trascriziün cun l'urtugrafia cureta. El test l'è in dal dialet Vallader, in particular quel da la cità da Zernez.

Se vurii dàm un agiüt, pudii scrivem la trascriziun sü la mia pagina da discüssiun ([1]). V'engrazzi sübit par l'agiüt ca ma vurii purtà! Ciao, e a prest!

Eug di dimena, chia nels temps del prüm raig da Ciper, zieva havair tut aint la Terra Sonchia da Gotfried il Bugliun, d'vantet chia üna zarta duonna della Guascogna in pellegrinadi get alla Fossa. Da la tuornand, in Ciper arrivada, da alchiuns schlechts homens grobamaing füt sgiamglada. Da que ella, sainza ingiün cofiört plonschand, s'inpiset da ir a reclamar al raig; ma da alchün la gnit ditta chia ün gnis a perder la fadìa, perqué chia el era da schlaseda vita e uschea poch da bön, chia, na be el vendichaiva la verguognias dals üns con giüstizia, d'inperse sainza fin ad el fattas las sustgnaiva con vituperusa viltat, nel temp chia ogni ün chi havaiva qualche cordöli, quist cont il far qualche spretsch o verguognia ad el fatta sustgnaiva; nel temp dimena chia ogni ün havaiva mal in cuor alchiün, quel cont i, dar alchiün spretsche o verguognia büttaiva oura. La qual chiosa udind la duonna, our spranza della vendecta, per consolaziun da sia lungurella, pigliet havant da vulair morder la misergia dal dit raig; et siand ida criand d'avant et d' schet: "Signur mieu, eug non vegn alla tia preschentscha per spettar vendecta del spretsch chi m'hais stat fat, dinperse, in paiamaint dal qual eug ad giavüsch chia tü am muosast sco chia tü supportast quels, eug incleg chi at sun fats, perqué, chia eug da tai inprendand, possa paziantamaing ils meis comportar. E que sa Dieu, scha eug pudes far, gugent t'ils dunes, gia chia tü est uschea bun purtader".
Il raig, fin alur stat tardif e daschiütel, sco scha el as schdasches dal schön, cumanzand dal spretsch fat a quista duonna, il qual eschamaing vandichiet, rigurusischem perseguitatur dvantet d'ogni ün chi, cunter l'hunur da sia curuna, alchiüna chiosa comettes da quia in avant.
Giovanni Papanti, Parlari Italiani in Certaldo, pagg. 709-710

Eldomm

Ina risposta

Stgavo Eldomm per casualitad hvai ju anflau questa contribuziun e te has cunquei svegliau mi' attenziun. Perquei less ju scriver cò da te. Ju selubescha da scriver cò ein Tuatschin, in dialect dal Sursilvan, igl idiom romontsch dal Grischu dal west.

Té damondas per ina transcripziun d' in text vegliander ord in cudisch sur dils dialects dall' Italia? Precisamein damondas té per ina transcripziun din text ein dialect (u idiom) Romontsch Vallader dal Grischun? Tiu text irritau mé. Ju vai capiu pauc da quei tg' ju vai ligiu. Il problem schei pauc tiel vocabular, móbégn ein la grammatica. Ju sun perquei sedumendaus sche la grammatica dil Romontsch Vallader sè schi differenta al Sursilvan. Quei ho svegliau mias merveglias da intercurir tiu link (Giovanni Papanti, Parlari Italiani in Certaldo, pagg. 709-710). Lò vai ju lu anflau al text correspondent ein Sursilvan tiel text ein Vallader, sin pagina 710. Quei text ho era fatg sursta mé. Ju capescha zuar begn il vocabular Sursilvan cun in per paucas exepziuns, dentaun capesch' ju aber strusch il cuntegn. L' ortografia sè semidada oz in pau mo betga zun fetg. La grammatica sè dantaun seminada bravamein. Pér sianter tg' ju vai ligiu las versiuns tudestgas sin las paginas 694 - 700 hvai ju lu plaunziu capiu il cuntegn dil text. A mé par' i: u tg' la grammatica dil romontsch dil grischun sè semidada zun fetg il davos tschentaner, ni tge la translaziun dil text, fatga da lezzas uras, sè da schliatta qualitad. Tgi sa?

In interessant document has te anflau tier tia retscherca. Ju vegn vinavaun a fufergnè liain.

Excursiun al'exposiziun «Sapperlottas! Dialects da la Svizra» a Berna

Ils utilisaders della vichipedia en lungatg aleman han l'intenziun da far ina excurziun al'exposiziun «Sapperlottas! Dialects da la Svizra» a Berna (http://www.nb.admin.ch/aktuelles/01962/03975/04014/index.html?lang=de), probabelmein ina sonda d'avrel. Suenter mein nus aunc a beiber in, sche nus vein gust. En questa expoziun ein cumpri era ils dialects romontschs. Sche enzatgi da vus ei interessau da venir cun, saveis vus s'inscriver cheu. Cars salids, --Terfili (talk) 20:28, 19 mars 2012 (CET)

Pagina principala

Jeu hai ina proposta. Actualmein ei la pagina principala buc fetg attractiva, e surtut ch'il "Artitgel recumandà" midada mai. Jeu proponel che nus mettein in auter artichel mintga jamna. Sche vus essas d'accord, sai jeu tscharner mintga jamna in artichel, jeu fetsch quei schon per la vichipedia aleman dapi biars ons. En pli savessen nus mettar enzatgei auter empei da "Vichipedia en autras linguas", aber jeu sai aunc buc exactamein tgei. Ei fuss era meglier da stizzar la secziun "Statistica". Il numer d'artichels ei schon pli ault, ed il numer d'utilisaders ei soviso buc ver, pervia d'il Single-User-Login.

Jeu manegel era che la pagina principala duei esser disponibla era en ils idioms (sco per exempel sin l'edizun bavarais u aleman). Biars romontschs san buc scriver quei romontsch castrau;-) e sche la pagina principala fuss era en ils tschun idioms, lura vessan tschels forsa ch'els san era contribuir en lur idiom. Tgei manegeis vus? --Terfili (talk) 11:12, 20 mars 2012 (CET)

Quai es tipic pel stadi da la vichipedia chi nu capita inguotta e chi nu dà ingüna resposta. Trist ... Xenos (ingiò sun ils instrumaints per editar ?)

E ti Xenos, tgei manegias ti lura de mia proposta? --Terfili (talk) 11:45, 25 matg 2012 (CEST)

Xenos pretenda gia dad in onn (u dapli) ch'i dovra ina nova pagina principala cun in maletg (purtret in ladin) e senza questa glista enorma dad autras Vichipedias. Ma jau n'ha actualmain betg temp per realisar quai. Ultra da quai na sai jau betg co ch'ins fa cun tabellas e talas chaussas. Jau na sun betg da l'avis che nus dovrain ina pagina principala en mintga idiom, quai fa in pauc l'impressiun ch'il rumantsch na saja betg ina lingua standardisada, damai che questa tecnica vegn duvrada surtut (sche betg exclusivamain) sin vichis dialectals. Ma ston auters decider sur da quai. Jau poss lu gidar cun las versiuns en rg e sutsilvan. Saldis, Andreas (talk) 17:06, 25 matg 2012 (CEST) (Ils instrumaints èn enavos, Candalua da Wikisource m'ha gidà da far l'ausmisten en las datotecas dal sistem.)

Las causas tecnicas sai jeu far, quei ei en sesez buc aschi grev e jeu sai copiar dallas autras ediziuns.

Per tgi has ti tema ch'il dat l'impressiun ch'il romontsch seigi buc in lungatg standardisau? Per ils unterlenders u quels dalla Purtenza? Per tschels s'intereseschel jeu buc, e tschels han toch soviso negina idea;-) Jeu patratgel plitost als romontschs che san scriver lur idiom aber buc il romontsch placativ (u vulessan buc). Ti has schon raschun che quei vegn duvrau surtut u mo per vichipedias dialecticas, aber la situaziun dil romontsch ei halt era in tic spezial cun sis versiuns standardisadas ch'ein fetg differentas ina dall'autra. En mintga cas sai jeu anflar enzatgi per far las versiuns per Sursilvan, Putèr e Vallader; jeu enconuschel fetg bien la Barbla ed ina autra che san probablamein translatar quei. --Terfili (talk) 17:16, 26 matg 2012 (CEST)

Na, na, betg Svizzers u auters che san ch'i dat ina lingua sco il rumantsch. Plitost persunas che navigeschan tras las Vichipedias per interess u lungurella; quels podain pensar che quai saja be in'autra Vichipedia dialectala taliana che n'interessa a nagin. Ma forsa has raschun cun tia idea... Ma jau sun encunter in' "alternaziun automatica" tranter las versiuns.

Sche ti has mustgas, pos ti gia preparar ina nova pagina principala e sche has basegn d'agid "administrativ" sche pos dumandar qui u sin mia disc.

Xenos po gidar cun las versiuns ladinas, el discurra vallader ed in zichel puter ed ha dicziunaris per omadus idioms. --Andreas (talk) 19:04, 26 matg 2012 (CEST)

Na, in'alternaziun less jeu era buc, la pagina principala en Rumantsch Grischun duei schon star il "default". --Terfili (talk) 23:50, 26 matg 2012 (CEST)

Jeu hai uss entschiet cheu ina gada. --Terfili (talk) 16:18, 28 matg 2012 (CEST)

Sainza dubi ün progress cler ed evidaint - grazcha fich per Tia lavur ! Per plaschair piglia sü survart amo la categoria: Religiun. Eu n'ha publichà blers artichels in quista categoria. - Be per dir: eu sa discuorrer insè be vallader, ma eu sa scriver tant in vallader sco eir in puter (in vichipedia scriva in prüma lingia per puter). Salüds --Xenos (talk) 17:08, 28 matg 2012 (CEST)

Ok, jeu hai uss aschuntau la categoria religun ed aunc auters. Il sistem dallas categorias ei aber era in tec chaotic... --Terfili (talk) 18:41, 28 matg 2012 (CEST)

Forsa, ma ün caos da bellezzas ! ;-) Pudessast amo ingrandir la fotografia ? Uschigliö esa tenor meis parair tiptop. Salüds da saira --Xenos (talk) 18:59, 28 matg 2012 (CEST)

Jeu hai finiu, tgei manegeis vus uss? Il artitgel e maletg da l'emna hai jeu tscharniu casualmein, sur la tscharna dils artechels e maletgs savein nus aunc discutar. --Terfili (talk) 22:36, 28 matg 2012 (CEST)

Eu sun fich perinclet cul resultat. Güst uschè n'haja pensà cha chi dess dvantar. Tiptop. --Xenos (talk) 07:59, 29 matg 2012 (CEST)

Cunquai che Terfili m'ha dumandà per mia opiniun vi jau era dar giu mes commentari. Dentant duai quella decisiun plitost vegnida fatga da las persunas ch'èn actualmain era activas. Grazia fitg a vus. Jau sper ch'era jau haja cun il temp puspè dapli temp per mintgatant m'occupar da la Vichipedia.

Cun la proposta mon jau sa chapescha d'accord. Sche quella sa mida mintga emna ina giada è quai segir fitg bun! Jau na crai dentant betg ch'i è necessari da translatar la pagina en tut ils idioms. En mes egls è quai lavur inutila ch'è bler meglier investida en in artitgel dapli en la Vichipedia rumantscha. Grazia fitg e chars salids, Gion-andri (talk) 11:28, 29 matg 2012 (CEST)

Terfili, tia proposta ma plascha fitg bain. Ma la frasa "Tochen uss han giu 3,345 artechels romontschs vegnids scrits." en la versiun sursilvana na ma para d'esser correct. Pos controllar quai? Era "Projects sumegliants", che vegn gia duvrà en la versiun actuala, na ma plascha betg. Forsa podainsa scriver "projects vischins/parentads/affiliads"? Gion-andri, tge manegias ti sco native speaker? Quests projects n'èn betg sumegliants (a Vichipedia) ma plitost "cumplementars". I dovra in pled che translatescha l'englais "related"... Ils Talians han "correlato" per quai, ma in *correlà na datti betg en il PG, be il substantiv "correlaziun", ed era quai tuna in zich scientific per mai. --Andreas (talk) 01:01, 30 matg 2012 (CEST)

@Gion-andri: Il 'sforz' per translatar la pagina principala fiss minimal – ed in artitgel nov vegni a dar soviso. Nus lain rumantsch da tutta colur ;-) --Andreas (talk) 01:08, 30 matg 2012 (CEST)

Okay, jau hai fatg la translaziun sutsilvana. Influenzà da l'original sursilvan hai podà fatg in pèr sbagls (regla c/z, finiziun -eia) ma jau vegn a controllar tut cun agid dal pledari actual dal Lehrmittelverlag. Jau hai adina duvrà las variantas da Schons, forsa cun excepziun da tgatar (vs. catar). --Andreas (talk) 20:30, 31 matg 2012 (CEST)

Tiptop. Sche Xenos fa uss era aunc las versiuns ladinas sai jeu aunc mussar tut quei a enzacons native speakers e suenter savein nus pervia da mei mettar tut quei live. Conoscha enzatgi aunc in Surmiran? --Terfili (talk) 22:45, 31 matg 2012 (CEST)

Per Surmiran es respunsabel Utilisader:Capricorn4049. - Las versiuns ladinas possa surtour, ma pür in circa duos eivnas.- Eu speresch eir cha la tecnica nun es massa greiva. Salüds --Xenos (talk) 09:00, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Nus duein aunc discutar sur la tscharna dils artechels dalla jamna. Sin la vichipedia aleman havein nus simplamein ina lista cun artechels che han ina certa lunghezia ed han buc sbagls evidents. La qualitad da quels artechels ha natiralmein muntau cun ils onns perquei che la qualitad dalla entira vichipedia ha muntau. Cheu exista schon la Categoria:Artitgels recumandads. Aber jeu less ch'era artechels en ils idioms pon esser artechel dalla jamna. Jeu manegel en sesez che quei ei buc ina buna idea da limitar ils artechels recumandads ad artechels scrits en Rumantsch Grischun. Sche per exempel Xenos scriva in bien artechel en Puter, perquei sa tschel buc esser recumandads? Jeu proponel d'arver ils artechels recumandas era ad artechels en ils idioms (e d'aschuntar enzacons alla categoria), e suenter vegn jeu (u auters che han gust) tscharnar in artechel per mintga jamna da questa categoria. --Terfili (talk) 11:39, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Terfili, eu sun perinclet cun tias propostas ! - Uschè, las versiuns ladinas sun fattas (greiv da mantgnair la survista in quista "salata" da HTML ;-) ).- Üna dumanda: co possa müdar il text suot il purtret (Tren pendular ...) ? --Xenos (talk) 16:18, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Super ed engraziel fetg Xenos! Il text sut il maletg vegn dils models en Categoria:Vichipedia:Pagina principala. Il fuss pusseivel da translatar il text en las sis variantas, aber jeu manegel buc che nus havein las resursas per far quei per tut las 53 jamnas...Uss ein ils texts sut ils maletgs halt en Sursilvan, per enzacons hai jeu era emprovau da scriver en in auter idiom (per exempel Model:Maletg da l'emna/28 u Model:Maletg da l'emna/32). Aber sche enzatgi vuless midar tut quei en Rumantsch Grischun vegn jeu buc far il aufruhr ;-) --Terfili (talk) 16:36, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Utilisader:Giancarlolozza è er surmiran.

Uss ha Xenos creà la pp putera cun in lemma idiomatic. Se quai è giavischà, stuainsa er spustar la pp sutsilvana. Terfili, Xenos: Lemmas idiomatics u unitars? --Andreas (talk) 17:05, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Pervia da mei ei quei wurst. Sin las autras vichipedias han las paginas principales dil reminent negin titel. Aber jeu sai buc sco nus savein far quei. --Terfili (talk) 17:39, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Per puter guarda oura il titel "pagina principala" (cul a impè dal e) curius ed ester. Co tuna il titel i'ls oters idioms ? Nun esa dapertuot uschigliö "pagina principala" ? --Xenos (talk) 17:58, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Tenor pledari.ch duei mo aunc la versiun sutsilvana esser different: "Pagina prinzipala". Cun ils autrers idioms mida nuot. --Terfili (talk) 18:55, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Alura füss mia proposta da müdar il titel sutsilvan sco descrit - per chaschunar ün sentimaint dad esser a chasa ;-) --Xenos (talk) 19:02, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

U en il cas dils Sutsilvans „d'easser a tgea“;-) --Terfili (talk) 19:08, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Exact, perquai hai jau dumandà. Lura avessan duas variantas cun in lemma redundant. Jau vess proponì da mantegner la proposta oriunda cun titel unitar e zuppentar lez sco en autras Vichipedias.

Xenos, il titel sutsilvan n'è atgnamain betg different, ma l'ortografia. Damai che <c> vegn adina pronunzià sco <k> tudestg, ston ins adina scriver <z> per il sun /ts/. Gangale ha creà in'ortografia "dal tuttfatg logica" ... q.v.d. usche differenta sco pussaivel. --Andreas (talk) 19:25, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Ma la pronunzcha nun es la listessa scu il purtret da scrittüra.- La pagina principala / principela / prinzipala voul guadagnar nouvs collavuratuors in tuots idioms, nischi ? Alura esa avantagius da bivgnantar in mincha idiom. --Xenos (talk) 19:54, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Schi schi, segir. Ma il titel da la pagina principala duai esser zuppentà, betg vesaivel sco p. ex. en la Vichi tudestga. En quel cas han novarrivads nagin contact cun el. --Andreas (talk) 20:15, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

@Terfili: Avant in pèr dis hai jau integrà la categoria "Artitgels recumandads" en il sboz per la nova pagina principala. Gia lura hai jau rendì attent a la problematica rg-idioms. Ussa hai jau fatg urden e stgaffì per mintga idiom in'atgna categoria cun artitgels recumandads. Tut questas categorias hai jau tratg ensemen en ina categoria surordinada (mira qua). Questa categoria surordinada po furmar la basa per eleger ils artitgels da l'emna. Salids D.Camenisch (talk) 22:28, 1 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Andreas, jeu sai mo buc sco far per zuppentar il titel. Jeu patratgel uss che quei vegn determinaus enzanua en il Mediawiki namespace, aber da quei sai jeu nuot.

E D.Camenisch, quei ei super ch'el dat uss era categorias per artechels recumandas en ils idioms. Uss duein nus aunc drovar artechels per questas categorias. --Terfili (talk) 10:36, 2 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Andreas (u auters administraturs), sche ti lessas, sas mettar la nova pagina live per gliendisdis pervia da mei. Pignas correcturas e la translaziun per Surmiran savein nus aunc era far pli tard. --Terfili (talk) 12:01, 2 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Jau hai fatg anc in zic fine tuning. Remartgas tar las translaziuns: La versiun RG ha l'invitaziun per novs auturs en l'indicativ (vuls ti = willst du), quellas idiomaticas en il condiziunal (vulessas ti = möchtest du). Jau propon da duvrar l'indicativ en tut las versiun. Ultra da quai duai(n) il(s) traductur(s) ladin(s) curreger sia translaziun: Noss lieu da discussiun ha num La pinta e betg Ustaria. Jau hai gia midà las versiun sur- e sutsilvans («penta»), ma forsa fissi meglier da duvrar La pinta sco num propri, pia da betg translatar el. Opiniuns? --Andreas (talk) 23:28, 2 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

In la pinta n'haja corret.- Ma üna correcziun da voust resp. voulessast nu fa dabsögn. Laschain ün zich libertà, per plaschair ;-) --Xenos (talk) 08:02, 3 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Super! Jau hai uss installà la nova pagina. Cun quai è la versiun RG "bloccada" per nun-Admins. Ma vus pudais anc midar il sboz. Las autras versiuns vegn jau a bloccar questa saira u dumaun. Cumpliments a tuts! --Andreas (talk) 18:16, 3 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

aarg ... nus vain fat ün sbagl: nu füss meglder da dir "là survainst agüd" cun ün punct dubel (:) impè d'ün punct simpel ?(Analog aint ils oters idioms). Pudessast amo correger dapertuot quista bagatella ? --Xenos (talk) 19:42, 3 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Fatg! Grazia per l'avis. Tia idea cun "survainst" ma plascha. Jau na sun betg segir sch'ins "chatta" agid... Quai schliass er il prublem cun tgatar vs. catar en il sutsilvan. hmm... jau scrivess uschè bugent er "artetgel" etc. ma l'idiom da Schons è il pli derasà... --Andreas (talk) 19:54, 3 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Tü povret ! ;-) - Grazcha fich eir a Tai ! Salüds da saira --Xenos (talk) 20:12, 3 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

=P La Lia ed il Schonsers en la Quotidiana scrivan "artetgel" e nus avain er gia in pèr artetgels. Remplazzà. --Andreas (talk) 20:16, 3 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Il resultat da nossas fadias es stupend, super ! - L'unic, chi disturba amo, sun ils lincs cotschens (Anteriurs artigels da l'emna / Anteriurs maletgs da l'emna). Esa pussibel da'ls culurir in blau ? --Xenos (talk) 08:10, 4 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Jeu sun bunamein inamuraus cun la nova pagina principala :) --Terfili (talk) 20:30, 4 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Cordiala gratulaziun per avair creà in caos incumparabel da variantas da scriver Rumantsch. Quai avais vus fatg fitg bain! Uss è la vichipedia rumantscha sper quai ch'ella era dal cuntegn nan gia pli che mo mediocra er anc en la furma induvrabla. Lavuruna per nagin e nagut che per voss ego. Provincial!

Üna contribuziun penibla. (Pudess insè gnir stüzza). --Xenos (talk) 11:43, 17 november 2012 (CET)

Candidatura

Tgau ensemen,

Jeu vuless bugen candidar sco administratur sin la vichipedia romontscha. Jeu sun schon dapi enzacons onns admin sin la vichipedia aleman ed uss era birocrat. Cheu less jeu sco administratur surtut renovar ed actualisar la pagina principa, tenor la proposta che jeu hai fatg pli sura. Jeu less era metter en uorden in tec las datotecas, che han per la plipart buc licensas u existan schon sin Commons. Ed en general sai jeu far adatg che vandalism ed autras causas vegn stizzadas pli spert e far uorden en las categorias e models. Artichels vegn jeu probablamein buc scriver, per quei eis ei meglier sch'ils Romontschs u tschels che tschontschan bien romontsch fan quei.

Lura, sche vus essas persuenter u encunter mia candidatura, saveis vus votar grad giusut cun ils models Encunter u Persuenter. --Terfili (talk) 11:40, 25 matg 2012 (CEST)

Persuenter Quai èn tut la chaussas ch'jau leva far gia daditg... :) --Andreas (talk) 17:06, 25 matg 2012 (CEST)
Persuenter Scha Tü sarast capabel da modifichar la pagina principala, survainst üna medaglia dad or ed eu vegn in schnuoglias davant Tai e cumainz a cridar d'algrezcha ;-) Salüds --Xenos (talk) 19:04, 27 matg 2012 (CEST)
Persuenter Gion-andri (talk) 11:29, 29 matg 2012 (CEST)
Persuenter pne (talk) 16:34, 29 matg 2012 (CEST)
Persuenter :-) DidiWeidmann (talk) 23:47, 29 matg 2012 (CEST)
Persuenter Ich wäiss zwar nöd, öb i da stimmbrächtigt bi ... --Holder (talk) 21:52, 31 matg 2012 (CEST)
Persuenter Inmortal (talk) 18:04, 01 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Jeu hai uss survegniu ils dretgs d'admin. Engraziel per tut las vuschs! --Terfili (talk) 20:15, 23 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Update on IPv6

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The Wikimedia Foundation is planning to do limited testing of IPv6 on June 2-3. If there are not too many problems, we may fully enable IPv6 on World IPv6 day (June 6), and keep it enabled.

What this means for your project:

At least on June 2-3, 2012, you may see a small number of edits from IPv6 addresses, which are in the form "2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334". See e.g. w:en:IPv6 address. These addresses should behave like any other IP address: You can leave messages on their talk pages; you can track their contributions; you can block them. (See the full version of this announcement for notes on range blocks.)

In the mid term, some user scripts and tools will need to be adapted for IPv6.

We suspect that IPv6 usage is going to be very low initially, meaning that abuse should be manageable, and we will assist in the monitoring of the situation.

Read the full version of this announcement on how to test the behavior of IPv6 with various tools and how to leave bug reports, and to find a fuller analysis of the implications of the IPv6 migration.

--Erik Möller, VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation 03:19, 2 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

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2011 Picture of the Year competition

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Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2011 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We are interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year 2011. Any user registered at Commons or a Wikimedia wiki SUL-related to Commons with more than 75 edits before 1 April 2012 (UTC) is welcome to vote and, of course everyone is welcome to view!

Detailed information about the contest can be found at the introductory page.

About 600 of the best of Wikimedia Common's photos, animations, movies and graphics were chosen –by the international Wikimedia Commons community– out of 12 million files during 2011 and are now called Featured Pictures.

From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons Features Pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories.

We regret that you receive this message in English; we intended to use banners to notify you in your native language but there was both, human and technical resistance.

See you on Commons! --Picture of the Year 2011 Committee 20:36, 5 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

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Artichels mals

Che es da fer per marker ün artichel mal per gnir stüzza ? {{stizzar}} nu va. --Xenos (talk) 08:26, 12 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Sali Xenos. In process "standardisà" per stizzar artitgels datti sa chapescha anc betg. Per in SLA pos duvrar il model {{delete}} che datescha anc da la "prima generaziun" da la Vichi rumantscha. Per artitgels ch'èn memia curts datti il model {{stub stidar}}. --Andreas (talk) 15:27, 12 zercladur 2012 (CEST) P.S.: Forsa duainsa er reactivar e schubregiar questa pagina?

L'ultim nu saja, ma iminchacas sun artichels sco quel sainza sen e penibels e dessan gnir stüzzats. --Xenos (talk) 15:39, 13 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Proposta

Tenor meis parair dessan gnir stüzzats tuots artichels chi cumpiglian plü pacas co almain trais frasas cumplettas. Tals pseudo-artichels nu sun neir ingüns "stubs", bleranzi els disturban be sainz'esser da valur per üna enciclopedia. Che maniais Vus ? --Xenos (talk) 08:45, 14 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Aber jau hai gia linkà questa pagina avant tia dumonda. Citat: «Mintga artitgel duai cuntegnair almain tschintg construcziuns (senza infurmaziuns statisticas);» --Andreas (talk) 20:49, 15 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Ok., eu sun perinclet cun quists criteris. --Xenos (talk) 08:04, 17 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Per la plipart concern quei artechels sur vischnauncas svizras sco per exempel Hermenches. Jeu proponel da stizzar gl'emprem tut quels che cuntenan mo ina frasa (forsa cun ina excepziun per vischnauncas dil Grischun?), e suenter da mirar ils auters e da decider sur ils criteris precis. Artechels sco Lingua cornica ein forsa en uorden. E deplorablamein ein la plipart dils novs artechels era artechels cuorts sur politichers, citads u provinzas en America dil Sid che vegnan scrits da persunas che vulessan far reclama e copian d'auters artechels pervia ch'els san buc romontsch. Jeu manegel che quels artechels duein era vegnir stizzai (aber lura copian els halt forsa 2-3 frasas dapli...).--Terfili (talk) 12:49, 17 zercladur 2012 (CEST)

Help decide about more than $10 million of Wikimedia donations in the coming year

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Hi,

As many of you are aware, the Wikimedia Board of Trustees recently initiated important changes in the way that money is being distributed within the Wikimedia movement. As part of this, a new community-led "Funds Dissemination Committee" (FDC) is currently being set up. Already in 2012-13, its recommendations will guide the decisions about the distribution of over 10 million US dollars among the Foundation, chapters and other eligible entities.

Now, seven capable, knowledgeable and trustworthy community members are sought to volunteer on the initial Funds Dissemination Committee. It is expected to take up its work in September. In addition, a community member is sought to be the Ombudsperson for the FDC process. If you are interested in joining the committee, read the call for volunteers. Nominations are planned to close on August 15.

--Anasuya Sengupta, Director of Global Learning and Grantmaking, Wikimedia Foundation 22:21, 19 fanadur 2012 (CEST)

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Regionalsprachen-Workshop auf der WikiConvention 2012

Auf der WikiConvention 2012 in Dornbirn/Österreich (31.08.-02.09.2012) wird es einen Workshop zum Thema "Wikipedien in kleinen Sprachen" geben. --Holder (talk) 18:18, 24 fanadur 2012 (CEST)

More opportunities for you to access free research databases

The quest to get editors free access to the sources they need is gaining momentum.

Credo Reference provides full-text online versions of nearly 1200 published reference works from more than 70 publishers in every major subject, including general and subject dictionaries and encyclopedias. There are 125 full Credo 350 accounts available, with access even to 100 more references works than in Credo's original donation. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
HighBeam Research has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications including newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias. Thousands of new articles are added daily, and archives date back over 25 years covering a wide range of subjects and industries. There are 250 full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.
Questia is an online research library for books and journal articles focusing on the humanities and social sciences. Questia has curated titles from over 300 trusted publishers including 77,000 full-text books and 4 million journal, magazine, and newspaper articles, as well as encyclopedia entries. There will soon be 1000 full access 1-year accounts available. All you need is a 1-year old account with 1000 edits. Sign up here.

You might also be interested in the idea to create a central Wikipedia Library where approved editors would have access to all participating resource donors. Add your feedback to the Community Fellowship proposal. Apologies for the English message (translate here). Go sign up :) --Ocaasi (talk) 04:23, 16 avust 2012 (CEST)

Request for Comment: Legal Fees Assistance Program

I apologize for addressing you in English. I would be grateful if you could translate this message into your language.

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a request for comment on a proposed program that could provide legal assistance to users in specific support roles who are named in a legal complaint as a defendant because of those roles. We wanted to be sure that your community was aware of this discussion and would have a chance to participate in that discussion.

If this page is not the best place to publicize this request for comment, please help spread the word to those who may be interested in participating. (If you'd like to help translating the "request for comment", program policy or other pages into your language and don't know how the translation system works, please come by my user talk page at m:User talk:Mdennis (WMF). I'll be happy to assist or to connect you with a volunteer who can assist.)

Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF)04:10, 6 Settember 2012 (CEST)

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Wikidata is getting close to a first roll-out

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As some of you might already have heard Wikimedia Deutschland is working on a new Wikimedia project. It is called m:Wikidata. The goal of Wikidata is to become a central data repository for the Wikipedias, its sister projects and the world. In the future it will hold data like the number of inhabitants of a country, the date of birth of a famous person or the length of a river. These can then be used in all Wikimedia projects and outside of them.

The project is divided into three phases and "we are getting close to roll-out the first phase". The phases are:

language links in the Wikipedias (making it possible to store the links between the language editions of an article just once in Wikidata instead of in each linked article)
infoboxes (making it possible to store the data that is currently in infoboxes in one central place and share the data)
lists (making it possible to create lists and similar things based on queries to Wikidata so they update automatically when new data is added or modified)

It'd be great if you could join us, test the demo version, provide feedback and take part in the development of Wikidata. You can find all the relevant information including an FAQ and sign-up links for our on-wiki newsletter on the Wikidata page on Meta.

For further discussions please use this talk page (if you are uncomfortable writing in English you can also write in your native language there) or point me to the place where your discussion is happening so I can answer there.

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Upcoming software changes - please report any problems

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All Wikimedia wikis - including this one - will soon be upgraded with new and possibly disruptive code. This process starts today and finishes on October 24 (see the upgrade schedule & code details).

Please watch for problems with:

revision diffs
templates
CSS and JavaScript pages (like user scripts)
bots
PDF export
images, video, and sound, especially scaling sizes
the CologneBlue skin

If you notice any problems, please report problems at our defect tracker site. You can test for possible problems at test2.wikipedia.org and mediawiki.org, which have already been updated.

Thanks! With your help we can find problems fast and get them fixed faster.

Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 05:10, 16 october 2012 (CEST)

P.S.: For the regular, smaller MediaWiki updates every two weeks, please watch this schedule.

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Fundraising localization: volunteers from outside the USA needed

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Hello All,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Fundraising team have begun our 'User Experience' project, with the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries outside the USA and enhancing the localization of our donation pages. I am searching for volunteers to spend 30 minutes on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real-time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. Please sing up and help us with our 'User Experience' project! :) If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!

Thanks!
Pats Pena
Global Fundraising Operations Manager, Wikimedia Foundation

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